Baby Boy
Silvia, Skyline, and Z. All were different models and have been produced along side each other for their entire lives. Yeah, Japan has a huge car culture, sweet, but then why is Nissan the only company to do so? The 300zx, S13, and R32/33 were all concurrently available as 4 seaters, so there's no coupe appeal reasoning. Was there a huge difference in price? I'm just confused about the huge opportunity for sales cannibalization, even though it seems to have never been an issue.
My point is these three models are all extremely similar and comparatively priced.
Honda has an S2000 and a Prelude. Prelude is not available as a 2 seater. Accords & Civics are not sold as sport models, just modded to sports, and therefore don't really strike me as being similar in make.
Toyota has a Soarer, Supra, Celica, and an MR2/S. MR2 is only a 2-seater, so it has the coupe appeal, and since the Supra and Celica are very dissimilar in price, they are hard to compare. Soarer is even more expensive.
JDM only means Japanese Domestic Market, which was my way of specifying that I was talking about older R32s/R33s/R34s, etc.
2 out of 3 of the cars I specified are still produced and are available in the US. Considering my new information, and considering these three cars are similarly priced (unless you take a GT-R and TT Fairlady, obviously) and similarly styled, my question remains the same. Can anyone give me exact MSRPs for each in comparable makes? That might clarify.
Also the fact that accords, civics, and celicas are all front wheel drive further distances them from their sportier counterparts. I guess what I need clarified is how much of a price difference there is between a base S13 and a base R33, because I have been assuming that they are very similar. If they are quite different then this would immediately answer my question, though it would still leave the debate about the skyline and the 300zx.....
Answer
As said many makers have a range of cars which they keep ie the accord , supra ,gto,Civic etc etc.
Most makers including Nissan have a range from mpv to coupe to 4x4 Nissan has a mix of models and with variations on room IE 300zx 2 seater and a 4 seater skyline range GTR 4 seater GTS 5 seater.And on the coupe side each model differs in style engines and room the 300zx was a luxury model and offered an exotic style to the exec.The sx/Silvia range was to compete against the Celica a small sporty car with class and a sporty feel.The Skyline range was only ever offered abroad in very very small numbers and from 1957 when it first came out it offered a luxury drive and again a sporty engine but later models where to be in competition with the Porsche so this more hardcore model was made needed but variations ie th non turbo and single turbo versions kept fans happy.But the hardcore GTR version would take the car to modern races.
Again prices in its day would differ between models ie turbo non turbo 3 door 5 door etc etc.
So each model also would have catered for a different taste on the market so it wouldnt have affected its sales.
World sales not every country had certain models and some countries didnt want them,yes the safety aspect did make a difference but major factors was was the car going to sell well
IE turbo models sell well nowdays but the 180sx flopped so the 240sx was made as at the time turbo's where a no no in the US,In the UK which still isnt far off now ,they stick to familier models so adding a new car wouldnt have paid .
This is a major reason why the Skyline was never sold worldwide as the demand at the time was never that great.
to promote or alter emissions etc .
prices when new in 1993
$16600
base model R33 skyline GTS
$23900
R33 Skyline GTS-T
$43800
GTR model R33 Skyline
$33,000
Turbo 300zx model
$16,000
Turbo s13
Difference of the 300ZX and the Skyline was the zx was to appeal as an exotic car like the Ferrari whilst the Skyline wanted to appeal as a family sports car which offered the thrill of speed and looks but practical also hence a Diesel model non turbo model estate model and to the turbo models and different engines sizes from a 1.8 2.0 2.5 2.6 and with single and twin can and Limited edition variations..
As said many makers have a range of cars which they keep ie the accord , supra ,gto,Civic etc etc.
Most makers including Nissan have a range from mpv to coupe to 4x4 Nissan has a mix of models and with variations on room IE 300zx 2 seater and a 4 seater skyline range GTR 4 seater GTS 5 seater.And on the coupe side each model differs in style engines and room the 300zx was a luxury model and offered an exotic style to the exec.The sx/Silvia range was to compete against the Celica a small sporty car with class and a sporty feel.The Skyline range was only ever offered abroad in very very small numbers and from 1957 when it first came out it offered a luxury drive and again a sporty engine but later models where to be in competition with the Porsche so this more hardcore model was made needed but variations ie th non turbo and single turbo versions kept fans happy.But the hardcore GTR version would take the car to modern races.
Again prices in its day would differ between models ie turbo non turbo 3 door 5 door etc etc.
So each model also would have catered for a different taste on the market so it wouldnt have affected its sales.
World sales not every country had certain models and some countries didnt want them,yes the safety aspect did make a difference but major factors was was the car going to sell well
IE turbo models sell well nowdays but the 180sx flopped so the 240sx was made as at the time turbo's where a no no in the US,In the UK which still isnt far off now ,they stick to familier models so adding a new car wouldnt have paid .
This is a major reason why the Skyline was never sold worldwide as the demand at the time was never that great.
to promote or alter emissions etc .
prices when new in 1993
$16600
base model R33 skyline GTS
$23900
R33 Skyline GTS-T
$43800
GTR model R33 Skyline
$33,000
Turbo 300zx model
$16,000
Turbo s13
Difference of the 300ZX and the Skyline was the zx was to appeal as an exotic car like the Ferrari whilst the Skyline wanted to appeal as a family sports car which offered the thrill of speed and looks but practical also hence a Diesel model non turbo model estate model and to the turbo models and different engines sizes from a 1.8 2.0 2.5 2.6 and with single and twin can and Limited edition variations..
why are cars here in NZ so cheap?
davidmyers
compared to Malaysia.. for the price of a kancil here which is like a mini cooper car only smaller and lousier costs about RM20000 which you can already get a decent car there. i see sports cars on the streets everywhere.. no sight of preloved cars. is the country's economy rich that you can sell off cars cheap?
Answer
Cars are relatively inexpensive in New Zealand primarily due to two events that took place towards the end of the 1990s.
In 1998 the government removed all import tariffs on motor vehicles and they lifted the ban on parallel importing. Under parallel importing, retailers can sell a range of goods which were previously subject to sales restrictions. This affected certain lines of clothing, footwear, compact discs, televisions, cosmetics and perfumes, as well as motor vehicles.
The majority of cars sold in New Zealand are from the Asian countries (Japan, Korea etc) as well as from Australia. New Zealand does not manufacture its own cars.
Add to this that New Zealanders have a very high level of car ownership per capita and you have a market place which is highly competitive.
Having said this, there is (contrary to what you seem to have observed) a high level of importation of 'preloved' cars from countries like Japan who, like NZ, drive on the left. These cars are generally in excellent condition and, because they receive a NZ licence plate which reflects their date of importation rather than their age, it can sometimes appear that there are a greater number of new cars on the road than is actually the case. Importation of good quality inexpensive 'preloved' cars assists in keeping the price of new cars at competitive levels.
Cars are relatively inexpensive in New Zealand primarily due to two events that took place towards the end of the 1990s.
In 1998 the government removed all import tariffs on motor vehicles and they lifted the ban on parallel importing. Under parallel importing, retailers can sell a range of goods which were previously subject to sales restrictions. This affected certain lines of clothing, footwear, compact discs, televisions, cosmetics and perfumes, as well as motor vehicles.
The majority of cars sold in New Zealand are from the Asian countries (Japan, Korea etc) as well as from Australia. New Zealand does not manufacture its own cars.
Add to this that New Zealanders have a very high level of car ownership per capita and you have a market place which is highly competitive.
Having said this, there is (contrary to what you seem to have observed) a high level of importation of 'preloved' cars from countries like Japan who, like NZ, drive on the left. These cars are generally in excellent condition and, because they receive a NZ licence plate which reflects their date of importation rather than their age, it can sometimes appear that there are a greater number of new cars on the road than is actually the case. Importation of good quality inexpensive 'preloved' cars assists in keeping the price of new cars at competitive levels.
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